this is pretty significant for the vatican. they're known for secrecy. at least we're expected to learn a little bit of what's going on. >> we hope, deb. that is the hope. again, it's one of the most significant cases the vatican city court has heard, not to mention a huge embarrassment. paulo gabriele is one of the most trusted advisers to the pope. he leaked the papers because we wanted to expose the evil and corruption taking place perhaps in the vatican itself or in churches everywhere. he had a motive behind it. he didn't fight it. he actually admitted to the fact he did this, even though he hasn't entered a formal plea. >> intent is one thing. theft is another which is what's going to be so fascinating. saturday's initial session was held under very closely controlled circumstances. only a handful of approved reporters were inside. so what are some of the juiciest details that came out? >> we're not surprised. no cameras, no recording devices. even the pens that the reporters had brought in were taken. they took every proactive measure to make sure